Quote of the Day

“Whether one opposes or supports gay marriage, one thing is certain: The heterosexual divorce rate is more than 50 percent, and it has been so well before gay rights ever came to the fore in this country. Sure, we can search for scapegoats to blame for the loss of love in our time. But we heterosexuals have seen the enemy and it is us … The greatest danger to marriage in our time stems from the wholesale degradation of women in the popular culture. In magazines, on television, and especially on Internet porn, women are continually portrayed as the libidinous man’s plaything, not an equal to be taken seriously but a subordinate who is a means to salacious male ends … Surely, if asked, Jesus would have said that a woman is more than male eye-candy … [C]rying out against gays when there are bigger and more toxic fish to fry is what makes religion ineffective and irrelevant.”

– Rabbi Shmuley Boteach in “What Would Jesus Say About Miss California?

About Monique

Chocoholic, jazz head ... prone to rants, and a professional pitbull. I married a terrific guy who happens to be a rabbi, so I guess that makes me a rebbetzin. Who saw that one coming? My grandparents survived the Shoah and spent their lives in the service of others. On my best days, I walk in their footsteps.
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7 Responses to Quote of the Day

  1. Anonymous says:

    It takes an Orthodox Jesus-denying Rabbi to knock some sense into this whole debate. As a gay Jewish believer in Jesus, I despair at the Christian communities’ hypocritical position on gay marriage. Many of my gay friends who are spirit-filled believers in our Messiah, live lives of quiet dignity and integrity.

  2. Rabbi Joshua says:

    Anonymous,Thank you for your comment. Rabbi Shmuley indeed hit the nail on the head in his whole article. Often many of us within spiritual communities, not wanting to possibly consider the issue might be us, are quick to call for a witch hunt and point fingers. Afterall, the problem has to be everyone else, not us … right?

  3. Yoshi says:

    Monique,Thanks for this quote. Rabbi Shmuley is very right, and the Jewish community (and religious communities in general) needs to really address the issues of men degrading women to objects for their lust. Yeshua of course would have been calling this one out. The Internet has for sure been a holy tool for our generation, but it has also been a destructive weapon. This problem of course goes back farther than the Internet though. Rebbe Nachman called this kind of lustful mindset the main sin to be overcame by the men of his generation. It remains to be the difficulty of our generation. Gay marriage is sideline issue for our religious communities. Let’s stop badgering them about any twigs we might see in their eyes, and worry more so about the log in our own. With Yeshua’s help!

  4. Monique says:

    Thanks for your comment, anon.It really irks me when Christians and Messianic Jews claim that the institution of marriage is under threat because gay people want to get married … it’s not. The “institution of marriage” is under threat because straight people are failing at the task of lifelong monogamy (with all its ups and downs) and are divorcing by the millions.

  5. AB'SGIRL16 says:

    I read Rabbi Shmuley’s opinion in the Jewish Journal and a friend sent me a link to your blog; thank you for addressing this issue. At first read, I immediately thought how very interesting it is that most people can magnify someone’s faulty behavior so quickly when they are opposed to gay marriage. It’s almost as if having an opinion against it makes you a target for open season. Don’t get me wrong, I am not giving Miss California a pass for choosing to participate in lascivious behavior just as I could not excuse a gay Jewish believer’s lifestyle. Both of which I think are predicated by a culturally confused society. However, I am more concerned with the uber-liberal religious leadership that spoon feeds their congregates their progressive ideologies and after which go and daven in the back of the shul or preach from the pulpit. It’s becoming more shameful to see HaShem’s words twisted to suit what a society deems out-dated or non-applicable principles. I was always taught that HaShem and his word was the same as it was yesterday, today and will be tomorrow. Then why is both Jewish and Christian leadership constantly morphing it into something that is contradicting? Now concerning Miss California, who has been sandblasted for being put on the spot to answer a highly political question in an no win situation. Had she gave an answer that she supported gay marriage (which I assume ole Perez was fishing for since she was representing such a liberal state that was championing Prop 8) I suspect she would have been denying her core beliefs system no matter how tarnished it may be. As hard as it must have been, I applaud her for having the guts to stand up and speak what she believe while being put on the spot and responding to the host who was gay. Personally chose to love – hate the sin and not the sinner I always say. However, when our society is constantly shoving it’s liberally lifestyles down your throat there comes a point when you must say “ENOUGH ALREADY!” I think all societal issues have the right to be heard, addressed, and discussed (both the big fish and the little fish) and none of them should be swept under the rug. I would start bygetting to the heart of what is being promoted in our shuls and churches. I completely disagree with Rabbi Shmuley’s last comment “that it is up to Miss California to use her crown to condemn assaults on spirituality and marriage and not gay marriage”; that’s his job. After all the oil runs from the head of Aaron down to its beard. It’s when one thinks it runs the opposite way that we as a society seem to fail.

  6. Monique says:

    AB’SGIRL … thanks for your comment (and for visiting our new blog!), but I just want to clarify that our choice to quote Rabbi Boteach was not an attempt to “address the issue” of gay marriage (or something as silly as a beauty queen enjoying her 15 minutes of fame, for that matter). You’ll notice that the portions of his article that cover Miss Prejean, her views, and her modeling choices were intentionally not included in our quote.We simply continue to appreciate Rabbi Boteach’s perspective on the role that mass culture plays in our everyday relationships. He makes a pretty convincing argument that heterosexual marriages are failing at an alarming rate … and he refuses to place the blame for that on gay people. We heterosexuals are responsible for our failure at lifelong monogamy, and need to rethink the way we portray and perceive women in popular culture.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Well said Monique. AB’SGIRL was building up quite a head of (righteous) indignation. It is of course the very reason why so many of my gay believing friends remain in the closet, because this issue is ‘super charged’ with emotion.She confuses Gay Pride with the dignity of believers who passionately love and serve HaShem as His gay children, in committed, life-long relationships. And Boteach has the guts to point out the obvious: gay marriage does NOT destroy hetero-sexual marriages – goodness, how is that possible? I mean, Europe has had gay marriages for ages and it has not made the slightest difference to divorce rates.BTW, Boteach is very entertaining – I saw him in Oxford years ago. He passionately dislikes Messianic Jews (but mainly for their close association with evangelical Christianity) but asks very penetrating questions, which are worth listening to!

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