The ZIBBC, Ezekiel 8, and Tammuz

I am bringing together several topics of interest in this post. First, I recently reviewed the ZIBBC (Zondervan Illustrated Bible Encyclopedia) here and recommended it as a resource to everyone who loves study. The set on the Hebrew Bible is $157.47 on amazon (five volumes, full-color, beautifully bound).

Second, because of some discussion the last two days about Christmas, Hanukkah, intermarriage, and so on, the issue of Tammuz and Ezekiel 8 came up.

Although Ezekiel was a prophet among the exile community in Babylon (having been deported in 597 with Jehoiachin), he was transported in spirit visions at times to Jerusalem and gave messages for the Jerusalem community. Were these messages for the exile community even though they spoke about Jerusalem? Or did messengers take Ezekiel

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5 Responses to The ZIBBC, Ezekiel 8, and Tammuz

  1. tandi119 says:

    Let us know what you discover about Tammuz. Maybe you will come to the same conclusion as Alexander Hislop and others:

    “Jerome, who lived in Palestine when the rites of Tammuz were observed, up to the very time when he wrote, expressly identifies Tammuz and Adonis (vol. ii. p.353), in his Commentary on Ezekiel, viii. 14, where the Jewish women are represented as weeping for Tammuz; and the testimony of Jerome on this subject is universally admitted. Then the mode in which the rites of Tammuz or Adonis were celebrated in Syria was essentially the same as the rites of Osiris. The statement of Lucian (De Dea Syria, vol. iii. p. 454) strikingly shows this, and Bunsen (vol. i. p. 443) distinctly admits it. The identity of Osiris and Nimrod has been largely proved in the body of this work. When, therefore, Tammuz or Adonis is identified with Osiris, the identification of Tammuz with Nimrod follows of course….”

    p. 314 in The Two Babylons, Alexander Hislop

    Also see the chapter, The Great Red Dragon, available online at:

  2. judeoxian says:

    I really don’t think Alexander Bishop ever considered ANE context, like what Derek is doing here.

  3. Tandi:

    In yesterday’s post I made a compelling case that Nimrod has nothing to do with Babylonian deities and is not connected to Ninurta/Tammuz/Adonis, etc.

    You have not countered that argument with even an attempted rebuttal. Instead you cite a book no one takes seriously except uninformed people out of the loop of Biblical studies and ANE history. You would do just as well to cite the National Enquirer as your source.

    Saying something over and over again does not make it true. It is interesting that you do not consider my arguments, but carefully read and rely on this book. You don’t want the truth, Tandi and it is apparent to everyone but you.

    Derek Leman

  4. tandi119 says:

    I am continuing my studies, Derek, and finding some interesting information in other sources since you don’t accept Hislop’s research. Maybe you consider Donald G. Barnhouse, D.D. uninformed as well? He endorsed the book. Anyway, I checked one of Hislop’s many references and found this online (gleaned from De Dea Syria).

    Pagan precursor of the christmas tree?

    49. They cut down tall trees [suggestive of the pine, sacred to Attis] and set them up in the court; then they bring goats and sheep and cattle and hang them living to the trees; they add to these birds and garments and gold and silver work. After all is finished, they carry the gods around the trees and set fire under; in a moment all is in a blaze. – fn_99

    Then I found this about Tammuz:


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